Sep 5, 2022
In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Wyn Wiley, better known online as Pattie Gonia. Pattie is a "professional homosexual", environmentalist, and a drag queen. This conversation is fun and informative. We go deep learning all the fun nuances of the drag world, including what goes into a good tuck (who owns the title for the GOAT of tucking), the best drag songs, and the core components of a good drag performance. Pattie shares all the good work she's is doing with various outdoor organizations to improve representation in the outdoors. And of course we get a run down of what goes into being ultra-athletic in high heel boots.
We close the show with a triple crown of awkward places to run into an ex, a Q&A segment, and we cover if thru-hiking the PCT can give you a dumptruck ass.
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Interview with Wyn Wiley aka Pattie Gonia
Time stamps & Questions
00:04:56 - QOTD: What’s the easiest meal of the day to eat healthfully?
00:10:39 - Reminder: Apply to be a 2023 Trek Blogger
00:11:34 - Introducing Wyn!
00:13:05 - Who is Wyn Wiley?
00:15:26 - How did you become Pattie Gonia?
00:17:40 - Were you always openly queer?
00:19:23 - Who put boundaries on you as a kid?
00:22:10 - How do you run in high heels?
00:24:20 - What were you thinking when you posted some of your first viral videos?
00:27:22 - Were some people okay with you being gay but not with your wearing heels?
00:29:26 - Can you explain Wyn and Pattie’s different pronouns?
00:31:40 - What’s a good protocol for knowing when to ask someone their preferred pronouns?
00:33:36 - Discussion about being Pattie versus Wyn
00:35:10 - What’s the most difficult physical endeavor you’ve done in heels?
00:36:14 - Discussion about tucking
00:41:45 - Tell us about your hiking clothes.
00:42:48 - Do you have any tips for hiking in heels?
00:44:42 - Do you have any good eating shit stories from hiking in heels?
00:45:41 - Tell us about your recent event with the North Face.
00:48:29 - How can businesses be better allies?
00:50:34 - How can businesses move into the advocacy space?
00:52:31 - Do you want to give any particular people a shoutout?
00:54:09 - Have you had experiences where brands have approached you the wrong way?
00:55:48 - What were some of the biggest lessons you learned?
00:57:18 - What do you recommend for people looking to join queer outdoor communities?
00:59:07 - What does into a 10/10 drag performance?
01:03:42 - If you’re stranded on drag island, what 3 songs do you bring for your performance?
01:05:25 - If you were to make a drag starter pack, what would be in it?
01:06:28 - What is your go-to hiking snack?
01:11:18 - Do you feel like the thru-hiking community better accepts the queer community?
01:15:35 - How do you think you can bring more straight, white men to allyship?
01:17:01 - Do you see any backlash for caring about hair and makeup in the outdoors?
01:20:10 - Tell us about your makeup process.
01:22:09 - If you could pick only 3 pieces of makeup, what would you choose?
01:22:50 - Tell us about the plastics crisis work you did in Hawaii.
01:27:50 - Tell us about your organization, the Outdoorist Oath.
01:28:56 - What are the first projects your organization is starting with?
01:30:32 - Can you tell us about calling out NOLS?
01:37:29 - What should companies prioritize to do better by communities?
01:40:03 - Where can people go to keep up with you?
Triple Crown of awkward places to bump into an ex
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